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Asked 6/18/2010

401K rollover to Roth IRA with AGI limit

I have a 401K from a previous employer that I want to convert into a Roth IRA. Unfortunately I am not eligible to contribute based on income limits above 120K. It seems the rules changed in 2010 and allow the conversion, but not contributions without first contributing to another IRA? I need help clarifying the process so here is what I would like to do:

1. Convert old 401K directly into a new Roth IRA (pay tax penalty in 2010)
2. Contribute to my new employers 401K and get the company match.
3. At the end of the year (or after company match is paid), convert 401K to existing Roth (and pay the taxes)
4. Repeat steps 2 and 3 each year going forward.

First, is this even possible and is it the proper way to fund the Roth with an AGI above 120K? Second, how do I go about it? Anyone have an experience with online services (E-Trade, Schwab, etc) that make this kind of thing easy?

Thanks!

 
 
 
 
 
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Answer 1/1 - Submitted 6/19/2010

Alright, first thing's first: the special provision that allows higher income earners to move money from a (401(k)) into a Roth IRA without trying to directly Contribute is (to the best of my knowledge) still only available for 2010. We can only hope at this point that Congress may decide to make this Tax change permanent.

Secondly, even if this Tax break is extended indefinitely, right now you may have a difficult time getting 401(k) money out while you are working. The most common way that is available for the greatest percentage of 401(k) account holders who are still working at the same employer where their Plan is located is Section 72 Distributions.

Be careful, though, the rules governing the use of Section 72 for taking out money while still employed can be tricky. Get with a knowledgeable Tax Professional to learn more, as well as what is and is not possible for your particular set of circumstances.

 
 
 
 
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